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Preview:
- Monday we will talk about field trips
- and go on to our next classic authors
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Rene Descartes (1600s)
- ra-NAY day-CART
- possessive: Descartes's (Day-CARTS)
- Animals in western thought (reading)
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Back up to some fundamental questions
Suppose I am in a room full of people and animals and I ask....
- Am I conscious? (easy)
- Are the other people conscious? (harder)
- Are the animals conscious? (harder)
How can we make progress on 2 and 3?
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Reflecting on "automata" (self moving things)...robots (para 15)
- But wait...why is Descartes talking about robots!
- Based on mechanical garden statuary, he was able to imagine some day people creating robots!
Robot reflections (para 15)
- Imagine robot-dogs with the "same organs and outward form"
- "We could have no means of knowing they were in any respect of a different nature from these animals" (para 15)
- Imagine robot-humans, with the "same organs and outward form"
- There would be two tests whereby we could know they were not really human
Descartes's robot arguments (hinted at)
- If animals can be perfectly simulated by mindless machines, then they ARE just mindless machines.
- But they could be perfectly simulated by mindless machines.
- So animals ARE just mindless machines
- If humans can be perfectly simulated by mindless machines, then they ARE just mindless machines
- But they could NOT be perfectly simulated by mindless machines.
- humans pass the language test, but mindless machines will always fail it
- humans pass the general ability test, but mindless machines will always fail it
- So we can't draw the conclusion that humans are mindless machines
What is open to question here?
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Now let's set aside robots...how are animals and humans different?
Para 17 -- "by means of these two tests we may likewise know the difference between men and brutes"
The language difference -- all humans have SOME language, but animals have NO SIGNIFICANT language, even the most impressive animals lack language
- exceptions that are insignificant: parrots, barking dogs, singing birds...true language gives you the liberty to express a wide range of thoughts whenever you wish ... in this sense there is no true language in animals
The second test: the general intelligence difference (para 21)
- the extreme abilities of some animals don't carry over to other things, which shows they aren't based on "reason"
- the extreme abilities of humans do carry over to other things, which shows they are based on "reason"
The bottom line
- I have consciousness, reason...I know it introspectively
- You do too, because you pass the two tests
- But animals fail the tests
- Therefore...
- animals have no reason at all (para 19) .... they are "destitute of reason" (para 21)
- the soul of animals is different than ours (para 23)
- Descartes's contemporaries interpreted him as saying animals were unfeeling machines like clocks, so you could do anything to them.
- They used his ideas to defend vivisection -- experimentation on live, awake animals